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	<title>Comments on: Django for Rails devs</title>
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		<title>By: Morgan Christiansson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan Christiansson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 11:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Django has twill. http://djangosnippets.org/snippets/665/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Django has twill. <a href="http://djangosnippets.org/snippets/665/" rel="nofollow">http://djangosnippets.org/snippets/665/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bulak</title>
		<link>http://rcoder.net/content/django-for-rails-devs/comment-page-1#comment-602</link>
		<dc:creator>Bulak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just the two cents from a relatively inexperienced web developer: on my shared hosting, rails app (30-40 Mb) always uses more memory than django app (quite similar apps). However, I can&#039;t compare their performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just the two cents from a relatively inexperienced web developer: on my shared hosting, rails app (30-40 Mb) always uses more memory than django app (quite similar apps). However, I can&#8217;t compare their performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ennuyer.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rails Reading - Oct 20, 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ennuyer.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rails Reading - Oct 20, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Django for Rails devs at ronin coder  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gonzalo Delgado (gonzalodelgado) 's status on Thursday, 08-Oct-09 18:45:23 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gonzalo Delgado (gonzalodelgado) 's status on Thursday, 08-Oct-09 18:45:23 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] muy buena comparación http://rcoder.net/content/django-for-rails-devs [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Aron Pilhofer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aron Pilhofer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy: I have no idea how you&#039;re running Rails (if you are actually running rails), but with Passenger + REE our per-process footprint is closer to 30 megs. Rails also is multithreaded, as Piotr notes.

As for the post, very nice writeup! I largely agree with everything here, even thought I&#039;m a Rails guy. I&#039;d add a couple more wins for Django: The admin is a very slick feature, and I absolutely prefer the templatting language vs. erb, which invites all sorts of problems. Of course you can emulate both with various Rails plugins, but that&#039;s not the point here. 

On the Rails side, I think ActiveRecord is a far, far, far better ORM in general, and Rails 3 promises to vastly improve things further by allowing the ORM to be completely swappable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy: I have no idea how you&#8217;re running Rails (if you are actually running rails), but with Passenger + REE our per-process footprint is closer to 30 megs. Rails also is multithreaded, as Piotr notes.</p>
<p>As for the post, very nice writeup! I largely agree with everything here, even thought I&#8217;m a Rails guy. I&#8217;d add a couple more wins for Django: The admin is a very slick feature, and I absolutely prefer the templatting language vs. erb, which invites all sorts of problems. Of course you can emulate both with various Rails plugins, but that&#8217;s not the point here. </p>
<p>On the Rails side, I think ActiveRecord is a far, far, far better ORM in general, and Rails 3 promises to vastly improve things further by allowing the ORM to be completely swappable.</p>
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		<title>By: Rv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 for Django</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 for Django</p>
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		<title>By: ShawnR</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShawnR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, level-headed analysis. Thanks for the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, level-headed analysis. Thanks for the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Piotr Sarnacki</title>
		<link>http://rcoder.net/content/django-for-rails-devs/comment-page-1#comment-543</link>
		<dc:creator>Piotr Sarnacki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy:

Django is faster than rails, but please check your informations  before writing :) 

http://guides.rubyonrails.org/2_2_release_notes.html#thread-safety - it has been released about a year ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy:</p>
<p>Django is faster than rails, but please check your informations  before writing <img src='http://rcoder.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p><a href="http://guides.rubyonrails.org/2_2_release_notes.html#thread-safety" rel="nofollow">http://guides.rubyonrails.org/2_2_release_notes.html#thread-safety</a> &#8211; it has been released about a year ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 05:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say another difference between Django &amp; Rails is performance and resource consumption.

Django is significantly faster than Rails. It also uses significantly fewer memory. A Rails process typically can be around 100MB, while a Django process is more like 20MB. Django can be run in multithreaded mode, so you can have 5 threads in a 30MB Django process vs. 500MB for 5 Rails processes. 

This means that with Django you get a bigger bang for your buck spent on hardware. If you have a $20 256MB VPS that needs to run Linux, Apache, Django or Rails, and MySQL - with Rails youwon&#039;t be able to serve more than 1 concurrent user while with Django you can serve 5 or 10. Same if you have a 8G dedicated server - you can serve far more concurrent users with Django than with Rails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say another difference between Django &amp; Rails is performance and resource consumption.</p>
<p>Django is significantly faster than Rails. It also uses significantly fewer memory. A Rails process typically can be around 100MB, while a Django process is more like 20MB. Django can be run in multithreaded mode, so you can have 5 threads in a 30MB Django process vs. 500MB for 5 Rails processes. </p>
<p>This means that with Django you get a bigger bang for your buck spent on hardware. If you have a $20 256MB VPS that needs to run Linux, Apache, Django or Rails, and MySQL &#8211; with Rails youwon&#8217;t be able to serve more than 1 concurrent user while with Django you can serve 5 or 10. Same if you have a 8G dedicated server &#8211; you can serve far more concurrent users with Django than with Rails.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Plant</title>
		<link>http://rcoder.net/content/django-for-rails-devs/comment-page-1#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Plant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding tests for django.contrib.admin: you must have been looking in the wrong place, there are actually quite a lot - see http://code.djangoproject.com/browser/django/trunk/tests/regressiontests?rev=11578</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding tests for django.contrib.admin: you must have been looking in the wrong place, there are actually quite a lot &#8211; see <a href="http://code.djangoproject.com/browser/django/trunk/tests/regressiontests?rev=11578" rel="nofollow">http://code.djangoproject.com/browser/django/trunk/tests/regressiontests?rev=11578</a></p>
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